Live365 or Radionomy?

[ridetheradiowaves]

Hey everyone, I'm new to internet broadcasting but want to get into internet radio producing...broadcasting the songs that I make. It seems like Live365 or Radionomy are the best bets...any advice?

[andrewzarian]

I have heard good thing about live 365. The reason why people use them is because they cover the royalty fees ( in the monthly cost) You can use Mixlr also to broadcast (for free)

[ridetheradiowaves]

Andrewzarian, thanks man! I've been researching how Radionomy is free and Live 365 costs money...here's the deal: Live365 collects users money to pay for music rights. Radionomy uses ad revenue generated by user stations to pay for music rights. And they offer free server capacity. The community is larger on Live365, but I'm leaning towards Radionomy because it just seems like a better deal. To those thinking of opening a station this is the best document I've found describing what Radionomy can do http://board.radionomy.com/tools/en/...LANNER_eng.pdf
My favorite parts: strong planning tool, jingles, podcasts and newscasts.
Does anyone actually have a station on Radionomy or Live365?

[Donovan]

I just spent about 2 hours playing around with Radionomy. The concept is interesting, but their management tools leave a bit to be desired. I tried, unsucessfully, to upload a podcast four times to a podcast "box" that I had created per their instructions. It failed all four times. What's worse, the site has a tendency to switch back and forth between English and French. I read a post in their forums questioning the legality of using your own music (instead of importing their existing streams). Their response was that you had to have purchased it, from iTunes or some other reputable source. Their reason this works? They say they've worked out a royalty deal with SABAM. I had no clue who or what SABAM was, so I looked it up.

SABAM is the Belgian Society of Authors, Composers and Publishers. We collect, distribute and manage (in the broadest sense of the word) all copyrights in Belgium and all other countries where reciprocal agreements have been negotiated (with our sister associations, i.e. other collection societies).

I'm not sure if the US organizations recognize them.

I'm glad I learned about Radionomy, but after trying to setup a station with them, I'm left with a bit of frustration. Their idea is to automate a lot of the process, but sometimes that's not a good thing.

Just my .02 worth.

[ridetheradiowaves]

Thanks for this Donovan. I looked into it and it looks like they have a deal with SoundExchange as well for the states.

"The service is free for both broadcasters and listeners. Radionomy pays all of the proper SoundExchange royalties, and inserts four minutes of advertising per hour. If your show gets popular enough, it could pay. Radionomy offers to split ad revenue with broadcasters, who sometimes earn over $5,000 per month, according to what Radionomy vice-president of business development Thierry Ascarez told Evolver.fm by phone."

http://evolver.fm/2012/09/18/radiono...some-at-music/

[Donovan]

Thanks for this Donovan. I looked into it and it looks like they have a deal with SoundExchange as well for the states.

"The service is free for both broadcasters and listeners. Radionomy pays all of the proper SoundExchange royalties, and inserts four minutes of advertising per hour. If your show gets popular enough, it could pay. Radionomy offers to split ad revenue with broadcasters, who sometimes earn over $5,000 per month, according to what Radionomy vice-president of business development Thierry Ascarez told Evolver.fm by phone."

http://evolver.fm/2012/09/18/radiono...some-at-music/

I'll have to give it a second look, then. I do love the concept! I've always wanted to be in radio (not sure why - there was just something magical about it) and not having to worry about the royalties is a big plus. I did notice, however, that if you don't have a certain number of listener hours in 9 months, you have to start paying. That makes sense. The company has to make money somehow to pay for those royalties.

[ridetheradiowaves]

Thanks Donovan! I gotta say my experience with Radionomy over the last few months has been nothing less than spectacular. I'm not paying a dime for a globally accessible internet radio station playing any music (copyrighted or not). I'm also taking advantage of the live broadcasting feature and impressed with the site analytic tools. Big vote for Radionomy.

[xmusiconline]

I tested the waters with Radionomy.. A few beefs I had with it was you had to upload songs and create a playlist to stream live or it wouldn't let you.. I also found out if you didn't "schedule" a long enough playlist it would randomly stream another station or content with your name on it.. Didn't really care for that.

[andrewzarian]

I actually received an email from them 3 days ago. They want me to test the service out / Put my content on there. I have not spent enough time with it to know what it actually does.

Xmusiconline.. Do you think it would work well for what im doing?

[xmusiconline]

I actually received an email from them 3 days ago. They want me to test the service out / Put my content on there. I have not spent enough time with it to know what it actually does.

Xmusiconline.. Do you think it would work well for what im doing?

I set up a test stream there to see what their site was all about. I personally find their site very difficult to understand and use (maybe I just haven't played around enough with it).. They talk a lot of radio terms such as clocks, day templates, planning etc.. but even as a seasoned broadcaster I found their site a pain to navigate.

Radionomy is basically an audio CDN like Live365 (except that Radionomy I guess offers free streaming as long as you meet their listenership targets over a period I think of 60-90 days [I remember reading but can't remember where I read it -- their support documentation actually links to forum posts].

If you have the time.. I would say 'try it out' They do have stats so you can see if your bringing any listenership in. I am a big fan of multiple delivery platforms.. the more people you can get your 'product/content' in front of the better.