Live365 or Radionomy?

[ridetheradiowaves]

Hey everyone, I'm new to internet broadcasting but want to get into internet radio producing...broadcasting the songs that I make. It seems like Live365 or Radionomy are the best bets...any advice?

[andrewzarian]

I have heard good thing about live 365. The reason why people use them is because they cover the royalty fees ( in the monthly cost) You can use Mixlr also to broadcast (for free)

[ridetheradiowaves]

Andrewzarian, thanks man! I've been researching how Radionomy is free and Live 365 costs money...here's the deal: Live365 collects users money to pay for music rights. Radionomy uses ad revenue generated by user stations to pay for music rights. And they offer free server capacity. The community is larger on Live365, but I'm leaning towards Radionomy because it just seems like a better deal. To those thinking of opening a station this is the best document I've found describing what Radionomy can do http://board.radionomy.com/tools/en/...LANNER_eng.pdf
My favorite parts: strong planning tool, jingles, podcasts and newscasts.
Does anyone actually have a station on Radionomy or Live365?

[Donovan]

I just spent about 2 hours playing around with Radionomy. The concept is interesting, but their management tools leave a bit to be desired. I tried, unsucessfully, to upload a podcast four times to a podcast "box" that I had created per their instructions. It failed all four times. What's worse, the site has a tendency to switch back and forth between English and French. I read a post in their forums questioning the legality of using your own music (instead of importing their existing streams). Their response was that you had to have purchased it, from iTunes or some other reputable source. Their reason this works? They say they've worked out a royalty deal with SABAM. I had no clue who or what SABAM was, so I looked it up.

SABAM is the Belgian Society of Authors, Composers and Publishers. We collect, distribute and manage (in the broadest sense of the word) all copyrights in Belgium and all other countries where reciprocal agreements have been negotiated (with our sister associations, i.e. other collection societies).

I'm not sure if the US organizations recognize them.

I'm glad I learned about Radionomy, but after trying to setup a station with them, I'm left with a bit of frustration. Their idea is to automate a lot of the process, but sometimes that's not a good thing.

Just my .02 worth.

[ridetheradiowaves]

Thanks for this Donovan. I looked into it and it looks like they have a deal with SoundExchange as well for the states.

"The service is free for both broadcasters and listeners. Radionomy pays all of the proper SoundExchange royalties, and inserts four minutes of advertising per hour. If your show gets popular enough, it could pay. Radionomy offers to split ad revenue with broadcasters, who sometimes earn over $5,000 per month, according to what Radionomy vice-president of business development Thierry Ascarez told Evolver.fm by phone."

http://evolver.fm/2012/09/18/radiono...some-at-music/

[Donovan]

Thanks for this Donovan. I looked into it and it looks like they have a deal with SoundExchange as well for the states.

"The service is free for both broadcasters and listeners. Radionomy pays all of the proper SoundExchange royalties, and inserts four minutes of advertising per hour. If your show gets popular enough, it could pay. Radionomy offers to split ad revenue with broadcasters, who sometimes earn over $5,000 per month, according to what Radionomy vice-president of business development Thierry Ascarez told Evolver.fm by phone."

http://evolver.fm/2012/09/18/radiono...some-at-music/

I'll have to give it a second look, then. I do love the concept! I've always wanted to be in radio (not sure why - there was just something magical about it) and not having to worry about the royalties is a big plus. I did notice, however, that if you don't have a certain number of listener hours in 9 months, you have to start paying. That makes sense. The company has to make money somehow to pay for those royalties.

[JohnLobbanRADIO]

Hey everyone, I'm new to internet broadcasting but want to get into internet radio producing...broadcasting the songs that I make. It seems like Live365 or Radionomy are the best bets...any advice?

I'm using Radionomy with good luck so far. We're in our 3rd month which requires 13 hours of daily streaming to maintain a station. We are currently averaging 192 daily hours. 130 hours are required at the 9-month mark to maintain the service as royalty-free. If you've ever been involved in the actual programming and playlist setup for a commercial radio station, you'll find it similar and quite easy to setup. There are 3 instructional videos in the Radio Manager that will get you started. URL http://rmo.radionomy.com

If you're interested, there is also a webcast I did with Jamie Welch, English Speaking Moderator of the Radionomy Forum. You can find the webcast on Spreecast at: http://www.spreecast.com/events/creativelive20130119

Hope the above information helps.

My Internet Radio Station:
http://JohnLobbanRADIO.com
Android App: http://Android.Lobban.net
iPhone App: http://iPhone.Lobban.net
Search "LOBBAN" on the Free Radionomy APP

[andrewzarian]

Is RADIONOMY generally for Music stations or are there some talk stations on the service?

[JohnLobbanRADIO]

Is RADIONOMY generally for Music stations or are there some talk stations on the service?

Generally these are music stations, however some schedule recorded news, podcasts and other non-music content. If you want to do a LIVE Show, that is possible too, using SAM Broadcaster (4.7.1 or later versions) or Winamp (5.57 and later versions with the Shoutcast DSP 1.9.0 plug-in). As I understand, you program a block of time for the cutaway from regular programming to your locally produced show which is streamed back through Radionomy to your audience.

I believe some of the stations listed at http://cosmicthings.com do broadcast some live content. Contact them for details. You might also take a look at http://audiograted.com/ as I believe they have done live shows.

My Internet Radio Station:
http://JohnLobbanRADIO.com

[andrewzarian]

Very cool thanks for the information. Many of our members will appreciate it.