Why all the talk About Money and not building an Audience

[Dana]

The people they bashed for making a "living", are the people that claim buying a podcast class through them will make you money. Anyone that claims they can help you make money podcasting is full of it. No class is gonna take a crappy podcaster from nothing to fame, that's not how it works.

BTW no one is begging for money. At least not on Mike or his "crews" site. We don't change for helping people......

Really! I guess you did not bother to watch the video they have out! Both on Blab as well as on Mikes Sunday Morning show. It is really hard to dispute something , when you can watch it for yourself. I see by your signature, you are hawking your own services as well. As a matter of fact, the two months I have been posting on this forum, I see this is the first post / response you have made. Maybe the troops are gathering.

As far as Mikes Sunday Morning show begging for money, you can find the link here my friend. https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/we...d303a50933f9b2

Kind of hard to dispute it, when you can view it for yourself!

[RadarGaming]

It's very clear you haven't watched "Mikes Sunday Show" very often. As I am on it every week. Speaking of promoting services. I see your Podcast School link in your signature. Does that mean you are begging for money? That's very hypocritical if you ask me.

[Dana]

It's very clear you haven't watched "Mikes Sunday Show" very often. As I am on it every week. Speaking of promoting services. I see your Podcast School link in your signature. Does that mean you are begging for money? That's very hypocritical if you ask me.

With all do respect, if you read my post that started this, you will see where I stated that video, then I clicked it off, 20 mins in. I did recognize you, as the last show you did, you were called out by the Host because you did nothing but argue with him, on a subject you clearly had no knowledge of. Then you got so pissed off, you walked off the show. It is clearly in the video.

As far as my signature goes, like I said, I promote this forum on the front page of my website, unlike your website, as well as mention them in the into of all my podcast.

One more thing, I see by your profile page, the last post you made was back in August of this year, before that, it was in May. Here again, not my opinion, all one has to do, is click on your profile page to see what I am saying, is in fact, a fact. Wow, two post in 7 months! Thanks for joining in and supporting this forum!

[RadarGaming]

With all do respect, if you read my post that started this, you will see where I stated that video, then I clicked it off, 20 mins in. I did recognize you, as the last show you did, you were called out by the Host because you did nothing but argue with him, on a subject you clearly had no knowledge of. Then you got so pissed off, you walked off the show. It is clearly in the video.

As far as my signature goes, like I said, I promote this forum on the front page of my website, unlike your website, as well as mention them in the into of all my podcast.

One more thing, I see by your profile page, the last post you made was back in August of this year, before that, it was in May. Here again, not my opinion, all one has to do, is click on your profile page to see what I am saying, is in fact, a fact. Wow, two post in 7 months! Thanks for joining in and supporting this forum!

First off what does my post status have to do with this conversation?

You seem to be a big fan of facts so let me give you some. A donation is not begging for money, fact, On "Mikes Sunday Show" we have never even mentioned that donation button its just on the side of the webpage.

The reason you are so pissed off about this is because they are calling you out for charging people $1200 for a "Podcasting Course", fact. You don't know Mike personally and are making a bunch of BS claims because they are calling you what you are. A scammer.

Speaking of having no knowledge you are teaching people to podcast when you clearly have no knowledge. So before you call people out. Stop being such a hypocrite.

[Dana]

Speaking of having no knowledge you are teaching people to podcast when you clearly have no knowledge. So before you call people out. Stop being such a hypocritical.

@Mike Myers. See, this guy just made my point about being lumped in with everyone else. Now on to you. They never called me a scammer. I never said that they attacked me on a personal level. Second, what does your posting history have to do with this? Quite a bit, as it seems the only time you post is when you can argure with someone. That's what got you kicked off your own show to begion with.

I will open my bank account to this forum, showing that we have our first two classes booked. 20 members per class at $1200.00 each. Man, that must really piss you off. Only stipulation is, you go first.

Just curioues, you still live in your parents basement, or do you really make a living designing websites?

[RadarGaming]

Is that the best you got? I can see why you got kicked off your own show. Go home little boy!

The fact that this the only thing you are going to refer to in my post just proves its true. Enjoy your little podcast school.

Can we get a link to this podcast you have?

[Dana]

The fact that this the only thing you are going to refer to in my post just proves its true. Enjoy your little podcast school.

Can we get a link to this podcast you have?

l do you one better, I will place you on the ignore list, in my settings. Like I said, you got kicked off your own show, go argue with them! You are no where close to being worth my time!

[RadarGaming]

@Mike Myers. See, this guy just made my point about being lumped in with everyone else. Now on to you. They never called me a scammer. I never said that they attacked me on a personal level. Second, what does your posting history have to do with this? Quite a bit, as it seems the only time you post is when you can argure with someone. That's what got you kicked off your own show to begion with.

I will open my bank account to this forum, showing that we have our first two classes booked. 20 members per class at $1200.00 each. Man, that must really piss you off. Only stipulation is, you go first.

Just curioues, you still live in your parents basement, or do you really make a living designing websites?

I currently am going to college so I do live with my parents. 40 people signed up for your course, you have 1 Facebook like and 2 twitter followers and 52 views on YouTube. Very interesting

[andrewzarian]

This thread has taken a very bizarre turn. I will try my best to break it down

1. Dana: The IAIB site is open for anyone creating video/audio content. From day one the IAIB has been open to podcasters, traditional broadcasters, internet broadcasters, and Youtubers. We created the site to provide a place for people to come and ask for advice, and meet others that create similar content. To me, internet broadcasting and podcasting is the same thing. There is no bias against either or. Most of our members from day one have been podcasters. We also have a section for industry providers. Meaning if you have a resource Ex. coaching, Hosting, and imaging we provide a palace for you to promote and discuss what you do.

2. Registration to the IAIB is open and FREE for everyone. The forum and the main site have separate registration, that might be the confusion here. Anyone can sign up and get in. We do not turn people away from being part of the site. Link : http://www.ibroadcastnetwork.org/member/signup. I see that you stated that you requested to have a broadcaster status. where did you send that request?

3. There is a general IAIB email address on the main site. info@ibroadcastnetwork.org. That is the only email we provide on the site. I receive all emails that are sent to that address. I do not publish my personal email address on this site or any other site.

I cant speak for anyone else other than myself but I can tell you first hand that we welcome everyone to this site. There are plenty of people who are charging for podcast/broadcast coaching out there that are doing a service for the industry. Many of them have been active on this site in the past. Dave Jackson, Daniel J Lewis, and Ray Ortega are three that come to mind right now. I don't think anyone is talking about them. However there are plenty of people that are doing "Podcast Coaching" who in my opinion are not qualified to do so. It seems that based on the success of a very small group of coaches people have taken the opportunity to profit with very bad info. I also don't think anyone was pointing a finger at you, personally I am not all that familiar with your website.

Beyond this I am not too sure what else to say. I am still very confused as to when this thread went off the rail. There have been a lot of accusations in this thread that are just not correct.

I hope this post cleared things up for everyone.

Andrew

[techzentv]

Hey Dana, nice to meet you.

Please do not take this the wrong way, but I think you might be a little oversensitive at this point. The people are you talking about on here (mike, nick, amnon even andrew) I have known for quite some time now and these people will help you just for the asking. They do not give a price quote to help, they just help. I do not think having a donate button is anywhere close to being hypocritical because that is an optional thing just for the people that appreciate the help.

Without trying to sound defensive, we have all had bad experiences with podcast "coaches" that charge large amounts of money and convince people that unless you pay them for an entire weekend course and buy the equipment from them you will not succeed. Those are the snake oil salesman that they are talking about.

I do not think they are referring to the people that are truly trying to help people and charging for it. I have heard of some very dumb things that people were told to do by some of these coaches. Unfortunately I compare these folks to the same folks that were pushing internet marketing a few years back telling everyone they could get rich quick.

Dana, please know I am saying this to you because I know nothing about podcasting university, you may be different and good for you, I wish you luck on changing the general feeling of podcast coaches. I have seen some of the same things that mike apparently said so I understand where he is coming from and I am sure he was not pointing the finger directly at you, and I understand why that could be offensive to you as well. I am sure you can think of one or two "coaches" that fit the description above.

BTW... I do not think this forum was created just for broadcasters initially since it was created by Andrew and Spencer who are podcasters, Spencer used to be on XM and broadcasting. I think the intent was truly to include podcasters as well as broadcasters. Andrew can correct me if I am wrong. Most of the people I know on here are podcasters.

And yes, it has been a while since I posted, I mostly read because I do not have enough time these days for posting here or even on my own blog.

I hope you stick around, I am sure you can help people on here.