Wirecast 6 . Features we want to see

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05-29-2014, 06:50 PM
Dahalabit

Wirecast 6 . Features we want to see

I have been a long time Wirecast user. Some times they are really great at giving us features we want and other times they don't .. What are some features you would like to see in the next version of Wirecast
05-29-2014, 10:58 PM
MovieBuff

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Do request any features that might help you with this.
Fill out the form and link to this forum thread so the developers can read.
http://www.telestream.net/tele...st/contact-support.htm

(CraigS)

64 bit should be a good upgrade request. Playlist, tally, animation macro transitions, real-time clock, countdown clock(s), audio filter presets, dedicated transitions on layers or individual shots (Example: When selecting Layer 1 with lower thirds, "smooth" transition is applied to every lower third. When selecting camera shots on Layer 3, "cut" transitions are applied.), HEVC/H.265, social media text capture without relying on screen capture or chroma keying.
06-01-2014, 10:41 AM
PaulSaunders

All of those things would be great
06-02-2014, 02:40 PM
oscarmartz

Seems like the Wirecast 6 beta is out for the insiders program. 64bit support now added.
06-05-2014, 10:34 AM
cseeman

Do you see any near term use for HEVC/H.265?
No CDNs I know of are using if for live streaming. Encoders are resource deadly. Decoders for the end user aren't readily available.
06-09-2014, 08:02 AM
Podnutter

H.265 is the standard of the future. It is extremely efficient and allows 4k video to be streamed and nearly half the size and bandwidth
06-09-2014, 08:19 AM
cseeman

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Originally Posted by Podnutter

H.265 is the standard of the future. It is extremely efficient and allows 4k video to be streamed and nearly half the size and bandwidth

There's no one live streaming with H.265. It's VOD and rare at the moment given the lack of hardware decode. "Future" doesn't pay development income. It'll happen but you're looking a a couple of years at least and development resources are better spent on more important resources needed for features already in demand.

Telestream Vantage is supporting H.265 and even there, there's little use for it at the moment. Maybe if you're encoding for NetFlix 4K delivery such as House of Cards (and maybe not much of anything else at the moment). Vantage's market is on the high end delivery compared to Wirecast.

If you've examined H.265 encoding you'd know that the resources needed can bring a computer to its knees comported to H.264. "Live" may not even be close to possible without hardware assist which may not exist it.
06-09-2014, 08:21 AM
andrewzarian

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Originally Posted by cseeman

There's no one live streaming with H.265. It's VOD and rare at the moment given the lack of hardware decode. "Future" doesn't pay development income. It'll happen but you're looking a a couple of years at least and development resources are better spent on more important resources needed for features already in demand.

Telestream Vantage is supporting H.265 and even there, there's little use for it at the moment. Maybe if you're encoding for NetFlix 4K delivery such as House of Cards (and maybe not much of anything else at the moment). Vantage's market is on the high end delivery compared to Wirecast.

If you've examined H.265 encoding you'd know that the resources needed can bring a computer to its knees comported to H.264. "Live" may not even be close to possible without hardware assist which may not exist it.

Isn't netflix planning on offering their 4k content in H.265? Cseeman is correct that no one is currently live streaming with H.265.
06-09-2014, 11:56 AM
cseeman

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Originally Posted by andrewzarian

Isn't netflix planning on offering their 4k content in H.265? Cseeman is correct that no one is currently live streaming with H.265.

House of Cards so far as I mention. I'm not even sure if the new episodes of Orange is the New Black uses 4K H.265.
The practical demand for H.265 is very low at the moment. Once UHD TV sets replace HD things will move faster but I think that's still a couple of years away given consumer TV turnover rates.

Consider that H.265 encoding is horribly slow in current hardware by and large so we're even further away than that for live streaming.
06-09-2014, 01:35 PM
MovieBuff

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Originally Posted by cseeman

If you've examined H.265 encoding you'd know that the resources needed can bring a computer to its knees comported to H.264. "Live" may not even be close to possible without hardware assist which may not exist it.

While this is true, NHK was able to do this:

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"this year(2013) saw NHK demonstrating 8K (7680 x 4320) on an 85-in Sharp LCD. The pictures were being supplied in MPEG-H HEVC/H-265 from what NHK says is the world’s first real-time encoder to support the first standard capable of handling the 8K resolution and 60P frame rates of SHV.

But it’s not just the pictures that get an upgrade, as the SHV format also includes 22.2 multichannel surround sound that reproduces sound in three dimensions. So not only will consumers have to invest money in a new TV when 8K comes around, they’ll likely also need to shell out a substantial amount of cash on new speakers to enjoy all the audiovisual benefits of the format."

(Source: http://www.gizmag.com/nhk-8k-shv/29076/)

There's a few roadblocks,

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The current HEVC Test Model (HM) project[6] only implements the major functionalities of this standard; the real performance is still far from production and real deployment. The project’s two major drawbacks are:

No parallel scheme
Poor vectorization tuning

This HEVC encoder consumes over 100 times more CPU resources than the H.264 on the server side, and over 10 times more on the client side.

(Source: http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/...tion-for-Intel)

Sooner then later, they will be solved.