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MGadAllah
03-17-2014, 02:45 PM
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MovieBuff
03-17-2014, 02:52 PM
Hi
I am in the process to buy my mixer and I was advised to buy the behringer XENYX X2442USB (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CL4K94U/).
When I goggled for it I've found it =$379.99.
So when I keep comparing various models I've found the XENYX X1222USB (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0036ECH1M/) model for 229 usd.
So does both mixers 2442 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CL4K94U/) and 1222 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0036ECH1M/) are the same except the number of outputs and inputs or there is something else?
Please help :)

Look at page 3-4. It has a comparison chart.
http://www.behringer.com/assets/1204USB_X1204USB_X1222USB_X1622USB_X1832USB_X2222U SB_X2442USB_WebBrochure.pdf

MGadAllah
03-17-2014, 03:16 PM
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mcphillips
03-18-2014, 09:28 AM
I forget to mention that right now I am already has the QX1204USB which missing the insert and I do need it.

Why do you need an insert?

MGadAllah
03-18-2014, 09:44 AM
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mcphillips
03-18-2014, 04:04 PM
You don't need an insert for the dbx 286s. Run the mic into the 286 and then run the output of the 286 into the LINE input on the mixer. You're making a mistake getting a sonic exciter, but as I always say, the right solution is the one that works for you. Behringer compressors are terrible. But if you like it, go for it.

MGadAllah
03-18-2014, 10:52 PM
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MGadAllah
03-18-2014, 11:21 PM
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domineaux
05-03-2014, 07:32 AM
I am probably late on this thread. I negotiated with guitar center and bought a brandnew, in the box, X2442USB mixer for $300. I paid tax, but I made the deal without paying tax. I thought, "I want a bargain, but I don't want these guys to lose money on the deal". I'm really a nice guy.

McPHilips recommended the x2442usb behringer to me. Yes, it is a bit overkill for me. Yet, I won't have to spend alot of time as my enterprise grows researching mixers.

Thanks to you McPhillips

mcphillips
05-04-2014, 04:22 AM
That's a good price for that mixer. It's always best to have more channels than less channels. Plus, the X2442 gives you four aux sends.

rwildman
05-04-2014, 06:35 AM
Another thing that the 2442 provides is the direct outs for channels 1 - 8, which can come in very handy.

MovieBuff
05-04-2014, 06:19 PM
Another thing that the 2442 provides is the direct outs for channels 1 - 8, which can come in very handy.

Can you give some examples?

TomSinclair
05-04-2014, 07:15 PM
How does the function of the 8 subgroup outputs compare with the function of the 4 Aux Sends? Newbie question.

rwildman
05-04-2014, 07:17 PM
Can you give some examples?

Sure.
In one of the cases where I use the direct output capability of the 2442, there are certain things that, while, during a live broadcast, I like to hear them all the time, I only want my guests to hear them some of the time and do not necessarily want the audience to hear them at all.

In that case, I run the audio into a channel of the 2442, through which I hear it all of the time, or any time I have the levels up. I then take the direct out of that channel and run it into another channel, which is sent to the Aux and not to either of the subs or main. This allows me to hear the item on one channel, my guests, via mix-minus, on the Aux, on another channel and the audience, either never, or only when I route the channel I hear to one of the subs, or main, which ever the proper case is.

Clear as mud, right? Trust me, it comes in handy for my purposes. :) Maybe, a video of how this works would be interesting? If so, I could try to find time to create one.

rwildman
05-04-2014, 07:22 PM
I use the sub groups to separate audio inputs, all of which eventually go to air. During my typical broadcast sessions, I like to talk to guests prior to actually going to air, but while using the board to route items to air, much like any normal radio station would. I run microphones to sub-group 1-2 (left-right respectively) and can send that to air, or not, at the press of two buttons (sub-group buttons). I can have off-air conversations with guests, while other things are going to air, when sub-groups 1-2 are off, and route to air when they are on. The same goes for other items routed to other sub-groups. At least, that is the way I am currently using them. I'm sure that others can think of other ways to use them too.

The Aux I only use for mix-minus, or in special cases FX, though others might.

MovieBuff
05-04-2014, 08:17 PM
I use the sub groups to separate audio inputs, all of which eventually go to air. During my typical broadcast sessions, I like to talk to guests prior to actually going to air, but while using the board to route items to air, much like any normal radio station would. I run microphones to sub-group 1-2 (left-right respectively) and can send that to air, or not, at the press of two buttons (sub-group buttons). I can have off-air conversations with guests, while other things are going to air, when sub-groups 1-2 are off, and route to air when they are on. The same goes for other items routed to other sub-groups. At least, that is the way I am currently using them. I'm sure that others can think of other ways to use them too.

The Aux I only use for mix-minus, or in special cases FX, though others might.

Fascinating!
Do you use more than 4 mics normally? Do you have videos or photos of your setup.
I found a pretty good deal for a Behringer X2222 USB Mixer Audio Interface, so this is really interesting (different mixer from the 2442).

rwildman
05-04-2014, 08:47 PM
I use one mic locally and 3 inputs from Skype machines. I've used the 2442, in both its USB and non-USB form, for the past 7 years. It has been a work horse.

Here is a link to a pic of my setup (https://plus.google.com/photos/yourphotos?pid=5836403227739934194&oid=110989827238800643579) (on Google Plus) that was posted prior to my last studio rebuild. I do studio rebuilds about once a year, to keep me sane and clean everything.

I should note that you can't see the whole of the setup from this picture. There are 4 additional systems that are not in the picture. These are used for Skype and audio playback. In addition to that, there are other systems for audio broadcast, storage and backup.

MovieBuff
05-07-2014, 03:25 PM
I use one mic locally and 3 inputs from Skype machines. I've used the 2442, in both its USB and non-USB form, for the past 7 years. It has been a work horse.

Here is a link to a pic of my setup (https://plus.google.com/photos/yourphotos?pid=5836403227739934194&oid=110989827238800643579) (on Google Plus) that was posted prior to my last studio rebuild. I do studio rebuilds about once a year, to keep me sane and clean everything.

I should note that you can't see the whole of the setup from this picture. There are 4 additional systems that are not in the picture. These are used for Skype and audio playback. In addition to that, there are other systems for audio broadcast, storage and backup.

When using the USB output, can you record each channel individually through Adobe Audition or any other software program?

rwildman
05-07-2014, 03:32 PM
The USB output of the mixer is the same as that of the Main outputs. In other words you cannot do what you are asking, if I read your question correctly. To do something like that you would likely have to go with, at minimum, one of the Presonus StudioLive mixers. I'm sure there are others as well, but mention the Presonus StudioLive as a start-in price point, which is over twice that of the 2442.

mcphillips
05-08-2014, 03:40 AM
If you want to record one channel per track, take a look at the Behringer X32. It allows you to do so over USB. I still don't have any information as to how or whether Skype can see those channels. The StudioLive mixers are Firewire, so they're great for recording, but Skype doesn't like Firewire.

rwildman
05-08-2014, 04:19 AM
The X32 is a great looking mixer. However, the cost of that mixer, when compared with the 2442, is well over twice that of the other.

Regarding Skype not liking Firewire audio devices... If you are running Skype on different machines, which I am, then the Firewire issues is not a problem, as the audio of Skype can be received into the mixer from the output of the machine into the mixer and visa-versa. The use of Firewire, or USB for that matter, is something I tend to bypass in the implementation of any mixer I use.

The only advantage might be, IF Wirecast were able to recognize multiple digital inputs (from Firewire, or USB), which it does not, the ability to use the audio delay capability of it to sync audio in those difficult bandwidth challenged calls where the sync is off.

domineaux
05-09-2014, 10:09 AM
I've been working with my X2442USB and I'm a bit challenged by settings for the compressor function.

Mostly voice, and some music background or jingle is my requirement. I would appreciate to read how other users working with the compressor and gain maintain good audio quality and hopefully to have enough compressor function to keep good volume level when people speak too loud or on occasion get very loud.

If I need to buy a standalone compressor or gateway I can live with that. If a standalone hardware is the only best way to accomplish I would appreciate some recommendations.

MovieBuff
05-09-2014, 02:04 PM
The X32 is a great looking mixer. However, the cost of that mixer, when compared with the 2442, is well over twice that of the other.

Regarding Skype not liking Firewire audio devices... If you are running Skype on different machines, which I am, then the Firewire issues is not a problem, as the audio of Skype can be received into the mixer from the output of the machine into the mixer and visa-versa. The use of Firewire, or USB for that matter, is something I tend to bypass in the implementation of any mixer I use.

The only advantage might be, IF Wirecast were able to recognize multiple digital inputs (from Firewire, or USB), which it does not, the ability to use the audio delay capability of it to sync audio in those difficult bandwidth challenged calls where the sync is off.

If the Behringer X18 Mixer has multi-track recording, I'll get it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3QTUqgIZvg

AlBurr
05-09-2014, 04:18 PM
Seems like you'll be getting it :)


Recording Simplicity

The incredibly fast and comprehensive 18 x 18 channel, bi-directional USB interface also makes the X18 an amazingly powerful digital mixing solution for recording directly to your iPad or PC. Whether you’re making rock history in the studio, or you want to capture intimate live performances – it’s never been easier to record stunning tracks with exceptional clarity.


Perhaps I am misinterpreting this feature but doesn't this mean you can have 18 separate channels out the USB to the PC thus Multi-Track?

AndrewSeabrook
05-09-2014, 05:22 PM
I've been working with my X2442USB and I'm a bit challenged by settings for the compressor function.

Mostly voice, and some music background or jingle is my requirement. I would appreciate to read how other users working with the compressor and gain maintain good audio quality and hopefully to have enough compressor function to keep good volume level when people speak too loud or on occasion get very loud.

If I need to buy a standalone compressor or gateway I can live with that. If a standalone hardware is the only best way to accomplish I would appreciate some recommendations.

It is pretty simple. Don't use the compressor function. See Mike Phillips advice on this. Sage as always. THe mixer works fine and is very clean if you set your audio up properly in the first place. The only time I run the compression is during sports broadcasts where a commentator can vget excited very quickly. In that case I set the compression only one or two notches only, enough to take the spike off. Now when monioring, as the compressor kicks in you will hear a "pop" which alerts me that I have to adjust the channel fader on the mixer. Compression is no subsitute for actively monitoring and adjusting the volumes.

MovieBuff
05-25-2014, 09:16 AM
The X18 doesn't have aux sends?

I am surprised the Behringer X2442USB does not do multi-track via usb (please tell me I am wrong).

The Alesis MultiMix 16 USB FX (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/755475-REG/Alesis_MULTIMIX_16_USB_FX_MultiMix_16_USB_FX.html) :

All 16 channels on the MultiMix 16 can be recorded into a computer, along with the stereo Main Mix output, over the USB 2.0 connection. In addition, a stereo feed from the computer can be returned to the mixer for monitoring or mixing purposes. http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug08/articles/alesisMultimixUSB16.htm

Dan Ortego
05-25-2014, 03:36 PM
Seemingly, the 'newer' Behringer offerings are impressive. Since the X18 got mentioned above I'll go ahead and mention the X32 Rack. The backside shows Aux IN/Aux OUT so I can only guess that it means the same thing as Aux Send and Aux Return.

MGadAllah
03-25-2015, 03:32 AM
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rwildman
03-25-2015, 05:28 AM
the meaning of the features that are marked with - under the x2442


Those functions are not available on the 2442.

MGadAllah
03-25-2015, 06:02 AM
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rwildman
03-25-2015, 07:10 AM
UGH. I spent a lot of time writing a response and it has been lost (apparently) What a day.

Rather than write the response again, I keep it short.

You will not need those items mentioned, unless you are recording music, or require some fancy EQ or routing.

Here is a note about the Mute/Alt 3-4 item mentioned, from Sweetwater (http://www.sweetwater.com/insync/mute-alt-button-mackie-mixers-explained/).

Regarding the Insert capabilities of the X2442USB... The X2442USB that I use has the ability on the first 8 channels. Maybe take a look at the info on Behringer's site (http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/X2442USB.aspx) for more detailed info.

Inserts and direct Outputs on each of the mono channels.

MGadAllah
03-25-2015, 07:48 AM
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rwildman
03-25-2015, 08:03 AM
While I'm sure that they can be interconnected, I would recommend that you read through each of the manuals that came with the equipment. After that, put together a concise document, outlining what you want to accomplish. Next, go over the manuals again, to ensure that the equipment will do what you need (according to your document) and how they will need to be connected to make that happen. I would then put together a diagram that depicts how the equipment needs to be interconnected and build a shopping list of all the items, that are not on hand, that will be needed to make that happen. Go shopping for the items you need. The next step would be to put things together, according to your diagram and test it. After testing, you'll, probably, find out that some things work and somethings don't. Correct those that don't.

Of course, you could also hire, either, a consultant or an on-site engineer to do all that for you. A consultant would gather your requirements, do the documentation, create a plan, shopping list, diagram and test plan based on those requirements. An engineer could do the same, plus put it together and test it for you. In either case, you'd also get another document from them - an Invoice.

MGadAllah
03-25-2015, 08:13 AM
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rwildman
03-25-2015, 08:23 AM
You've actually posted the links where you can get the manuals for each of these pieces of equipment. I recommend that you read them.

X1204USB Mixer - http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/QX1204USB.aspx

MDX4600 - http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/MDX4600.aspx

SX3040 - http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/SX3040.aspx

MIC2200 - http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/MIC2200.aspx

H4 Zoom - http://www.zoom.co.jp/products/h4n/downloads/

MGadAllah
03-25-2015, 08:34 AM
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rwildman
03-25-2015, 08:41 AM
Interestingly enough, you won't find any documentation explaining how to explicitly connect together the devices you are using. However, audio inputs and outputs are easy enough to interpret as each device has them.

Microphone to MIC220 to MDX4600 to Mixer to Zoom. Personally, I wouldn't use the Exciter, unless I were running music through the system and then only on the output (non-amplified) of the mixer.

Good luck.

MGadAllah
06-04-2015, 02:34 PM
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